From: sparky4 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 15:15:14 +0000 (-0500) Subject: deleted: doc/ojoww.cpp X-Git-Url: http://4ch.mooo.com/gitweb/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=8b2e94a8b3b3ebd380c8deddae4b90dae7978d6f;p=16.git deleted: doc/ojoww.cpp deleted: doc/wwww.txt --- diff --git a/doc/ojoww.cpp b/doc/ojoww.cpp deleted file mode 100644 index c63d88ec..00000000 --- a/doc/ojoww.cpp +++ /dev/null @@ -1,132 +0,0 @@ -?! -This is a quick C++ tutorial, first in C++ you can use C files, you make a C file and give it extension .c (if no header), next to use it in your C++ you include it as follows -#extern "C" { - #include "myfile.c" -} -I don't remember if it's # for extern anyway... - - -In C++ and well, C too, you use macros and stuff and do things to the compiler does not goof, one typical construction is "if (something) has been defined, then add this code, and after that code end if" for example it looks like this: -#ifdef WIN32 - #include -#endif - -And you get different commands too like #ifndef which means if it is not yet defined, and #else, and #define which defines something, and so on. So another useful construction you can use for C++ to avoid stuff like confusing the compiler into including code more than once is by saying, well if you haven't included it yet, then include it please, or rather, if you haven't defined my flag,... -...then define my flag, and then add my code, and then close that block. So next time it looks at the same file it goes, oh I already have that one, ok next! -You do it like this -#ifndef _FILENAME_H_ -#define _FILENAME_H_ -//code here -#endif -The _FILENAME_H_ is just supposed to be something unique, so usually when you write out a filename with caps and underscore you are guaranteed a unique flag that wont mess up your code. Remember #define defines something AT COMPILE TIME, not runtime. - - -In C++ you really, really, really have to separate your code more than in maybe C. But the same rules apply, you have to alert the compiler of a function before you implement the function. For example: -void myfunc(); -int main() -{ - myfunc(); - return 0; -} -void myfunc() -{ - printf("huehuehuehue"); -} -In C++ you do this also, this is for the compiler otherwise it doesn't know what the hell you are doing you moron. But it is also for yourself and other people. This is because you might want to change exactly how your functions do what you want them to do, but you don't necessarily want to change that you have a function that is supposed to do something important. That is why you declare... -...everything as "in the best situation I have this function, it takes these arguments and returns this to me" and separate that from how you actually do it. -The declarations all go in header files with an extension .h and are included in all the files that use the code, including the file that implements the functions. The file that implements the functions has extension .cpp and you never include this file anywhere. NEVER EVER! Because these are your implementations, not your descriptions. You only include the headers, in their respective .cpp... -...file, hopefully with the SAME NAME except for extension, and include only the header also in any file that uses that code too. -The header (.h) is the file you want to start with the #ifndef, #define, and end with #endif, stuff. Not the implementation file (.cpp), if it's only in the header it works find, if it's in the .cpp too then you will probably break it at compile time. -A class is like a struct, or object. Think of them like defining your own types, with complex properties/members, and functions/methods. An example of using classes, already made could be this: -#include "cheetamen.h" -int main() -{ - Cheetamen cheeta_one; //one cheetamen - Cheetamen cheeta_two; //two cheetamen - cheeta_one.happy(); - cheeta_one.nr = 57; - cheeta_two.sad(); - cheeta_two.nr = 12; - printf("Cheetaman %d is very %s", cheeta_one.nr, cheeta_one.get_state()); - printf("Cheetaman %d is very %s", cheeta_two.nr, cheeta_two.get_state()); - return 0; -} -And that would return -Cheetaman 57 is very happy -Cheetaman 12 is very sad -Something like that, depending on what get state does. -You define instances of a class with new, and get free up memory with delete. -Cheetaman *cheeta; -cheeta = new Cheetaman(1, "happy"); -cheeta = new Cheetaman(); -delete(cheeta); -You now have a memory leak you baka!! Ok remember to delete everything after using it, or save a pointer to it somewhere you can find it again later. -So a class is like a struct but instead it is called class, with access modifiers, public so anything can be accessed, protected it can be messed with, and private it can only be affected internally by the class itself. This is important. If you do this: -cheeta.nr = 7; -/*Then you set the nr member to 7, but if nr is private you can't, so you need a function part of Cheetamen to update it. The reason for this is because you can tell other people what to do, you can only ask them to do something.*/ -Add classes to a namespace. -namespace hereisaname { - // all functions and stuff in the name space -} -You can declare namespace in other files, it just adds them to the namespace, this way you can have a lot of similar functions and stuff in different namespaces. It qualifies their unique names to (namespace name)::(member name) so it works like a prefix, I guess? Anyway moving on. -class Cheetaman { -public: - //this is a class - Cheetaman(); //default constructor, this is always called, unless you use another constructor - Cheetaman(int x, int y); //overloaded constructor, this is called when you put two ints in, so this is called instead of default. - void happy(); - void sad(); - const char * get_state(); - int nr; - ~Cheetaman(); -private: - const char *state; -}; -That is your declaration of the class, it has two constructors, a default and one overloaded, and some functions, and variables. When you use a class you can use the dot operator to use the members . like this: -Cheetaman cheeta; -cheeta.happy(); //note the dot... -For your implementation (.cpp) you use the include the (.h) and use the namespace too, and then define them statically as members I guess you could say. So Classname::membername like this: -#include "cheetaman.h" -namespace Cheetas { - Cheetaman::Cheetaman() - { - //default, set all the standard values for member variables and init code here - } - Cheetaman::Cheetaman(int x, int y) - { - //do extra stuff with x y - } - - void Cheetaman::happy() - { - this->state = new //well I forget the specifics for const char types but you get the point... - this->state = "happy"; - } - - const char* Cheetaman::get_state() - { - return this->state; //you return that state member of the actual class, you see? So it can change (happy/sad) but you always return the correct one. - } - //and so on and so on. - Cheetaman::~Cheetaman() - { - //deconstructor, delete all memory allocated here - } -} -this-> is used in the class as . is use outside of the class. -And that is more or less the gist of it. Oh yeah and you can inline assembly too, and use boolean types (bool) and so on. -sparky4 -sparky4!!!!! -sparky4: put in a file and upload it! -sparky4: put in a file and upload it! -sparky4: put in a file and upload it! -sparky4 no I am lazy -http://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/9468991 -sparky4 -sparky4 >/jp/ confirmed for having the hottest white girls -sparky4 I knew I should had tried to become a /jp/ idol. -sparky4: http://piratepad.net/INvoPrHMSN paste here -sparky4: mlet me get some drugs~ -^ -| -recursive chatlog diff --git a/doc/wwww.txt b/doc/wwww.txt deleted file mode 100644 index 7e63bb04..00000000 --- a/doc/wwww.txt +++ /dev/null @@ -1,401 +0,0 @@ - -URL irc://irc.rizon.net/project16 Mode +ntz Users 7, 2@, 0%, 0+ -Topic irc://irc.sparky4.net/16 | http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip <= new version! -#project16 -[15:14] === 55 unknown connection(s) -[15:14] =-= User mode for sparky4 is now +ix -[15:14] Global [Logon News - May 21 2011] First time on Rizon? 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This scan will not harm your computer. -[15:14] =-= User mode for sparky4 is now +r -[15:14] NickServ Password accepted - you are now recognized. -[15:14] -->| YOU (sparky4) have joined #project16 -[15:14] =-= Topic for #project16 is “irc://irc.sparky4.net/16 | http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip” -[15:14] =-= Topic for #project16 was set by sparky4!~sparky4@Rizon-C1D04E4A.resnet.latech.edu on Wed Jul 18 17:00:51 2012 -[15:14] =-= Mode #project16 +o sparky4 by ChanServ -[15:39] sparky4 yes everything in this game excluding the images will be just text files -[15:39] sparky4 wwwww -[15:39] sparky4 crazy -[17:44] |<-- Feint has left irc.rizon.net (Remote host closed the connection) -[21:40] sparky4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CPU2aKDWoo&fmt=18 = game's time setting wwww -[00:36] |<-- heheringfeast has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: Quitting) -[06:11] sparky4 ............ -[06:11] sparky4 TiV3: ticks thelinesofmagazine Sageru where in the fuck is everybody? -[06:38] -->| sparky4_ (~yakui4@Rizon-C1D3076C.resnet.latech.edu) has joined #project16 -[06:38] |<-- sparky4_ has left irc.rizon.net () -[08:29] Sageru ?] -[08:31] ticks sleeping of course -[08:31] ticks or about to -[08:31] ticks strange, my nick doesn't always want to highlight -[08:46] sparky4 wwww -[08:46] sparky4 wwww -[08:46] sparky4 wwww -[08:46] sparky4 wwww -[08:46] [ERROR] No match for “sup”. -[08:46] [ERROR] No match for “supp”. -[08:46] [ERROR] No match for “supp”. -[08:46] [ERROR] No match for “supp”. -[11:18] TiV3 hmm -[11:18] TiV3 w -[12:15] ticks wwwwww -[12:28] sparky4 wwww -[12:38] sparky4 i with ojosama will tell me the fucking hooks for the input -[12:44] |<-- thelinesofmagazine has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -[14:22] -->| sparky4_ (~yakui4@Rizon-C1D3076C.resnet.latech.edu) has joined #project16 -[14:23] sparky4_ void Core::run() -[14:23] sparky4_ { -[14:23] sparky4_ int i = 0; -[14:24] sparky4_ while (ENGINE_EXIT != this->msg) -[14:24] sparky4_ { -[14:24] sparky4_ //next line for purely testing purposes -[14:24] sparky4_ i++;if(i==600){char a;std::cin >> a;this->keys[a] = true;i=0;} -[14:24] sparky4_ this->sync(); -[14:24] sparky4_ this->input(); -[14:24] sparky4_ this->update(); -[14:24] sparky4_ } -[14:24] sparky4_ } -[14:24] sparky4_ hmmm -[15:16] |<-- sparky4_ has left irc.rizon.net (Remote host closed the connection) -[15:41] -->| Feint (~chatzilla@Rizon-8DFC2CD4.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) has joined #project16 -[15:48] Sageru https://www.power.org/resources/downloads/PowerISA_V2.06B_V2_PUBLIC.pdf too bad given that i don't know how to design CPUs this is useless to me -[17:56] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ticks-netbook))) -[17:56] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[17:57] |<-- Feint has left irc.rizon.net (Remote host closed the connection) -[18:41] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Read error: Connection reset by peer) -[21:27] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[21:47] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -[21:48] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[22:53] Sageru http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=53330 i can't believe there was a US DOS version of this -[22:53] Sageru i had no ide a -[22:54] Sageru http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=52672 >mfw this -[22:54] Sageru wwwwwww -[03:42] -->| sparky4_ (~yakui4@Rizon-C1D3076C.resnet.latech.edu) has joined #project16 -[04:02] |<-- sparky4_ has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -[11:59] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: leaving) -[12:01] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[12:05] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net () -[12:19] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[12:22] -->| Feint (~chatzilla@Rizon-8DFC2CD4.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) has joined #project16 -[18:42] |<-- Feint has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -[19:11] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Read error: Connection reset by peer) -[19:14] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[20:40] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: Restart.) -[20:52] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[23:16] sparky4 C/C++ = funny language -[04:52] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) -[06:49] -->| ticks (~emily@zima.blue) has joined #project16 -[07:33] sparky4 ........................... -[07:33] sparky4 ........ -[07:33] sparky4 ................. -[07:33] sparky4 .................. -[07:34] sparky4 ............................................................ -[12:50] -->| Feint (~chatzilla@Rizon-8DFC2CD4.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) has joined #project16 -[17:06] sparky4 Feint: Sageru ticks TiV3 good news everyone -[17:06] sparky4 wwww -[17:14] sparky4 minor bug found -[17:31] sparky4 WWWW -[17:31] sparky4 there is some bugs in project 16 -[17:32] sparky4 MANY buys w -[18:36] |<-- Feint has left irc.rizon.net (Remote host closed the connection) -[19:23] TiV3 www -[19:32] sparky4 !! -[19:32] sparky4 TiV3: wwww\ -[21:24] -->| sparky4_ (~yakui4@Rizon-C1D3076C.resnet.latech.edu) has joined #project16 -[21:39] sparky4_ *lock_key&=(~(16 | 32 | 64)); // toggle off the lock keys -[21:41] =-= sparky4 has changed the topic to “irc://irc.sparky4.net/16 | http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip <= new version!” -[22:30] sparky4_ Sageru: TiV3 ticks WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONG?!?! -[22:30] Sageru in my butt -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: nigga download that zip file -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] Sageru lol -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] Sageru i need to DOSbox it -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] Sageru does it work in DOSbox? -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: http://www.yotsubano.me/16.zip -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: NOBODY IS FUCKING REVEIWING IT -[22:32] sparky4_ Sageru: YES YES IT COMES WITH THE INSTALLER -[22:32] Sageru oh -[22:32] Sageru crazy. -[22:33] sparky4_ Sageru: I AM PISSED OFF -[22:33] sparky4_ nobody is reveiwing it -[22:33] sparky4_ and they be too dumb -[22:33] Sageru ┐(´～`；)┌ -[22:33] sparky4_ wwww -[22:33] sparky4_ Sageru: please try it out -[22:34] Sageru when i'm not IMing and on the phone and IRC at the same time -[22:34] sparky4_ Sageru: ;_; -[22:34] sparky4_ Sageru: it's late i i need to shpower before i get way too tired -[22:35] Sageru lol -[22:35] Sageru okay, well i will get back to you on it -[22:35] sparky4_ ? -[22:35] sparky4_ please do it now ~ w -[22:35] Sageru i'm busy -[22:36] sparky4_ FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF -[23:33] TiV3 awawa -[01:04] Sageru shit pickle -[01:04] Sageru cool programming but what progress is there -[05:12] -->| Feint (~chatzilla@Rizon-8DFC2CD4.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) has joined #project16 -[05:44] -->| Ojouchama (~chatzilla@jp.desuwa) has joined #project16 -[09:33] sparky4_ https://boards.4chan.org/jp/res/9452272#p9454310 -[09:34] sparky4_ Sageru: keyboard -[09:34] sparky4_ codes -[09:40] Sageru hmm? -[10:00] Ojouchama sparky4 when will you finish your game? -[10:08] Sageru she has a little tune playing -[10:08] Sageru so far -[10:08] Sageru which is more than i could do w -[10:08] Sageru i can hear the OPL2's glorious sound -[10:10] Sageru SID/AY-3 are my favorite sound chips probably, as well as the FM chip in the PC88/PC98 -[10:12] Sageru pretty odd how the SID ended up in a total of two computers -[10:53] Ojouchama Sageru shut up. -[10:53] Sageru no u -[10:53] Ojouchama Sageru always talking about stuff that doesn't work. -[10:54] Sageru what does that even mean -[10:54] Ojouchama Do you even have working code for those sound chips? -[10:54] Sageru no i don't but i'm saying i like the sound -[10:54] Sageru i don't program anything -[10:54] Sageru i didn't claim to -[10:54] Sageru ┐(´～`；)┌ -[10:54] Ojouchama Did you compose anything that can actually be used? -[10:54] Sageru god damnit -[10:55] Ojouchama Stop distracting sparky4. -[10:55] Ojouchama This is #project16 not #oldSoundHardwares -[11:00] Sageru lol -[11:00] Sageru go relax, have a drink or something -[11:18] sparky4 Ojouchama: wwww -[11:18] sparky4 Ojouchama: good news wwww -[11:19] sparky4 Ojouchama: a this rate it's vapor ware -[11:20] sparky4 Ojouchama: i was in class -[11:21] Sageru sparky4, what is most important is not to give up -[11:21] Sageru i wish i could help but i have no knowledge -[11:21] sparky4 Sageru: ^^ -[11:21] sparky4 Sageru: i barely know anything wwww -[11:21] Sageru and gaining it would take longer than it would for you to just develop it -[11:21] Sageru w -[11:21] Sageru oh -[11:21] sparky4 Sageru: well back in 2007 -[11:22] sparky4 i started playin iwith computers (like actually take them apart and learn about them) -[11:22] sparky4 Sageru: i did not know SHIT about computers back in 2006 -[11:22] sparky4 now i am an UBER POWAH USER -[11:22] Sageru lol -[11:23] Sageru i'm just a huge nerd, my understanding of hardware is greater than that of software so programming is really well beyond my capacity -[11:23] sparky4 Sageru: then you should make the fucking drivers -[11:23] sparky4 wwww -[11:24] Sageru well -[11:24] Sageru programming goes into software -[11:24] Sageru i wish i understood the hardware *that* intimately -[11:24] sparky4 Sageru: and hardware bitch -[11:24] Sageru ;_; -[11:25] sparky4 is FAR too tired to work on project 16 -[11:26] sparky4 Ojouchama: the keyoard input works but i cannot figure out how to make it work with the game engine's core -[11:26] sparky4 if we can get the input system down then development can REALLY take off -[11:27] sparky4 Sageru: i am soo weak -[11:27] sparky4 from hacking the keyboard yesterday -[11:27] sparky4 Sageru: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOkPM91JRpk wwww -[11:28] sparky4 it's taking forever to make this game because only 1 person is actually developing www -[11:28] sparky4 and that person is ..... wwww dumb -[11:41] Ojouchama sparky4 how do you know the keyboard input works? -[11:41] Ojouchama sparky4 What does it do? -[11:42] sparky4 Ojouchama: wwww i can see raw scan codes when i push a key -[11:42] Ojouchama sparky4 So you print them out? -[11:42] sparky4 .... -[11:42] sparky4 Ojouchama: download it please wwww -[11:44] sparky4 Ojouchama: like when you press Esc it prints it's raw scan byte -[11:44] sparky4 which is 1 -[11:45] sparky4 Ojouchama: i need this working swith the engine so i can inplement the moving pixel test -[11:45] sparky4 Ojouchama: the moving pixel that is controlled by keyboard -[11:47] Ojouchama sparky4 That means you have it in a variable. -[11:48] sparky4 ohh~ -[11:48] Ojouchama sparky4 Map them with an ASCII key array like we discussed then use that aray in the engine core. -[11:48] sparky4 ok -[11:49] sparky4 Ojouchama: bot how do i make it communicate with the game engine core? -[11:49] Ojouchama Then in the game, instead of querying the scan code you query the key array. -[11:49] Ojouchama The input updates the key array / scan codes. -[11:49] sparky4 Ojouchama: ~ like a cloud of keys? -[11:50] Ojouchama sparky4 Exactly. -[11:50] sparky4 Ojouchama: wwww -[11:50] Ojouchama sparky4 It isn't too complicated and pretty universal. -[11:50] sparky4 Ojouchama: doom engine has something like that wwww -[11:51] Ojouchama sparky4 They key array will be some member of the game core object. -[11:51] sparky4 ?!!?!?!? -[11:52] sparky4 wait -[11:52] Ojouchama sparky4 So it remembers everything and you separate the internal hardware code from the game code. -[11:52] sparky4_ private: -[11:52] sparky4_ engine_message msg; -[11:52] sparky4_ std::list *fp; -[11:52] sparky4_ Timer timer; -[11:52] sparky4_ bool keys[256]; -[11:52] sparky4_ int frames_per_second; -[11:52] sparky4_ //std::list fp; -[11:52] sparky4_ ?? -[11:53] Ojouchama Yeah keys[]/ -[11:53] sparky4_ wwww -[11:53] Ojouchama Then, and this is the clever part... -[11:53] Ojouchama You figures out what actions you want to take in your game. -[11:54] Ojouchama Say you want to do 10 things. -[11:54] sparky4_ #define NUM_SCAN_QUE 256 // this MUST be 256, using BYTE roll-over for -[11:54] sparky4_ // q code -[11:54] sparky4_ Ojouchama: i am extreamly tired right now ww -[11:54] sparky4_ byte kee_q[NUM_SCAN_QUE]; -[11:54] Ojouchama You have a game object with an array of 10 bools, and you remap the keys to those. -[11:55] sparky4_ wtf is an object and a fucking bool? -[11:55] sparky4_ is a bool a pool? -[11:55] Ojouchama sparky4 no. -[11:55] sparky4_ wwww -[11:55] Ojouchama sparky4 A bool is like a bit, except it is either true or false. -[11:56] sparky4_ Ojouchama: we cannot forget joy sticks and mice -[11:56] sparky4_ Ojouchama: the bit as in byte and nibble or this is another bit? -[11:56] Ojouchama http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/6557/ -[11:57] sparky4_ Ojouchama: bool is like a switch variable? -[11:57] sparky4_ Ojouchama: when key is press it's 1 -[11:57] Ojouchama sparky4 That is why you separate and map keys twice. -[11:57] sparky4_ when key is up it's 0?> -[11:58] sparky4_ Ojouchama: i know they return different values -[11:58] Ojouchama sparky4 you handle all input devices, and only map them to game registered "keys" when they are used. -[11:59] Ojouchama Key up is false, which is 0. -[11:59] sparky4_ Ojouchama: ill use the joy stick as a dildo www -[11:59] Ojouchama Use false. -[11:59] sparky4_ ok -[11:59] Ojouchama sparky4 ew. -[11:59] sparky4_ Ojouchama: i am joking -[11:59] sparky4_ Ojouchama: ww -[12:00] sparky4_ Ojouchama: there is 6 rows of keys -[12:00] Ojouchama sparky4 Eventually you want a Game object which the core maintains. -[12:01] sparky4_ wtf is an object? -[12:01] sparky4_ ww -[12:01] Ojouchama sparky4 like the Core object, or Engine, I forgot what I named it. -[12:01] sparky4_ namespace engine{ this? -[12:01] sparky4_ Core::Core() this? -[12:02] Ojouchama Except the Game object will only have things like player lives, and game rules, and stuff like that. -[12:02] Ojouchama sparky4 yes. -[12:02] sparky4_ Ojouchama: we may need a physics object? -[12:02] sparky4_ Ojouchama: wait they are all objects? -[12:02] sparky4_ momentum and gravity ww -[12:04] Ojouchama sparky4 so you can do this: -[12:04] Ojouchama namespace engine{ -[12:04] Ojouchama class Game { -[12:04] Ojouchama public: (public functions here) -[12:04] Ojouchama protected: -[12:04] Ojouchama private: (private variables here) -[12:04] Ojouchama } -[12:04] Ojouchama } -[12:04] Ojouchama Then implement the functions/methods for it in a cppp -[12:05] sparky4 Ojouchama: ohhh can you explain wtf is is a class? -[12:06] Ojouchama sparky4 A core object interfaces all other stuff, a game object has all game stuff, it can also have for example an options object. So core can't affect options directly. But it can update Game with keys, and Game can update options based on those keys. -[12:07] Ojouchama sparky4 A class is a homosexual function that is persistent until killed. -[12:07] sparky4_ wwww -[12:07] =-= sparky4_ is now known as sparky4|compy4 -[12:08] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: i am logging this talk wwww so i can read over it when i don't fell sleepy -[12:08] Ojouchama sparky4 It is like having global variables and functions that are bound to a scope of the "object" basically a struct. -[12:08] Ojouchama But more homosexual. -[12:09] Ojouchama The when eng_core.h and eng_core.cpp is more or less a good example of how you do a class. -[12:09] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: tho te global variables in that object is basically stuck in there? -[12:10] Ojouchama sparky4 Yes, it's persistent and a member of the object so it's called like this OBJECT_NAME.variable -[12:11] Ojouchama sparky4 with a . (dot) -[12:11] Ojouchama sparky4 But you should make an instance of a class like a variable so... CLASS_NAME variablename; -[12:12] Ojouchama You see that for Core in main.cpp -[12:12] sparky4|compy4 ? -[12:12] Ojouchama sparky4 Inside a class you can use this->variablename to get something. -[12:12] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: they should give this stuff better names ww -[12:13] Ojouchama sparky4 What do you mean? -[12:13] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: wtf is "this->" i see it everywhere -[12:13] Ojouchama this as in "this exactly copy of the class that is running now at this very moment" -[12:13] Ojouchama And then -> is like using a pointer to the member. -[12:14] Ojouchama sparky4 You can also access+ -[12:14] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: you can call a class that is not running? -[12:14] sparky4|compy4 wtf is this sourcery? ww -[12:14] Ojouchama sparky4 You can also access stuff statically so there is a difference. -[12:15] sparky4|compy4 's brain pops -[12:15] sparky4|compy4 wwww -[12:15] Ojouchama Fore example you can Core::functionname(); and it should run, if it CAN run. -[12:15] sparky4|compy4 ww -[12:16] Ojouchama But ... If you do that you might as well use C style functions in my opinion. -[12:16] Ojouchama sparky4 The benefit with C++ is that you can organize persistent and running code better and more efficiently. -[12:16] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: is there something bad about C? -[12:16] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: ohh~~ -[12:17] Ojouchama sparky4 It has limited use for large scale simulations, which is what a game really is. -[12:18] Ojouchama sparky4 In C you would use a lot of structs, but it gets more messy and complicated the more complex the program gets. -[12:18] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: ohh dear -[12:18] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: i have servere A.D.H.D. wwww if you can't notice -[12:19] Ojouchama sparky4 C++ might seem complicated but when you think about it you just build a lot of scaffolding, that's all. The rest is then just reduced to ver simple functions that use variables you've stored on the class, or passed as arguments. -[12:19] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: this styl;e is programming is OBJECT ORIENTED programming -[12:20] Ojouchama sparky4 Yes, it is. But it isn't bad or anything. -[12:20] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: i know but is is very advanced wwww -[12:20] Ojouchama sparky4 Objects are really like contained simulated entities which makes using them for simulation work quite powerful. -[12:22] Ojouchama sparky4 A lot of people will tell you that C++ is bad, or good, or whatever. But don't listen to them, they don't make anything, they're idiots. -[12:22] sparky4|compy4 wwww -[12:23] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: can you make a small tutorial file on the shit i don't know but need to know? -[12:23] sparky4|compy4 wwww -[12:23] Ojouchama sparky4 Nothing can solve all use cases in a good way so you use what works good enough. -[12:24] Ojouchama sparky4 If you find C++ hard you aren't good enough to make the optimizations to not use it, or to optimize it with C++, or whatever. -[12:25] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: it's not really -[12:25] Ojouchama sparky4 This way you prevent a lot of mistakes, if you do it properly. -[12:26] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: the code has significantly much less errors now -[12:26] Ojouchama sparky4 The errors were because you did it wrong. -[12:26] Ojouchama www -[12:26] sparky4|compy4 wwww -[12:26] sparky4|compy4 WWWW -[12:27] Ojouchama sparky4 I bought an XBOX360 on a whim. -[12:27] sparky4|compy4 they say at school i am an advanced programmer wwww -[12:27] Ojouchama sparky4 I told you not to listen to other people, they're idiots. -[12:27] sparky4|compy4 in reality i suck massive donkey dicks -[12:27] Ojouchama wwww -[12:27] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: that was like a while ago -[12:28] Ojouchama sparky4 I am terrible, girls can't code. -[12:28] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: 99.99% o the population is bakas -[12:28] sparky4|compy4 the 0.01% barely know how to code -[12:28] Ojouchama sparky4 Yes, I always say: It's not that I'm good... It's that you're just an idiot. -[12:29] sparky4|compy4 and a few people know dos programming w -[12:29] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: EYE AM A ⑨ -[12:30] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: eye want to get better w -[12:30] Ojouchama sparky4 The code runs on Win32 also. -[12:30] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: the game code?! -[12:30] Ojouchama sparky4 If I replace the Dos stuff with Win32 libs and compile for Win32 it will work too. -[12:31] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: ohh cool~ -[12:31] sparky4|compy4 what about win16? -[12:31] sparky4|compy4 and os/2? -[12:31] Ojouchama sparky4 If I replace the Dos stuff with Xwindow stuff and compile for linux it will work on linux. -[12:31] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: wwww thats why i am advoiding assembely -[12:32] sparky4|compy4 in case anyone wants to port it to other machines -[12:32] Ojouchama sparky4 If I replace the Dos stuff with glut stuff or QT or something and compile it for whichever system it will work for all systems which glut or QT uses. -[12:32] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: small tutorial file for me to play with? www -[12:33] Ojouchama sparky4 assembly is more tricky, yes. -[12:33] Ojouchama sparky4 Only do low level optimizations when it all works. -[12:33] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: and no snes port -[12:34] sparky4|compy4 ww -[12:35] Ojouchama sparky4 It is so hot I am in my panties on the floor drinking lots of juice boxes and surrounded my computer stuff. -[12:36] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: wwwwwwwwwwwww -[12:36] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: tempurature? -[12:36] Ojouchama sparky4 Yes temperature omigosh!! -[12:37] sparky4|compy4 it's 33 degrees celcious~ -[12:37] Ojouchama sparky4 But talking about code is exciting too. -[12:37] sparky4|compy4 yes -[12:37] sparky4|compy4 is dead tired -[12:37] sparky4|compy4 i am wearing boy's clothed because i feel icky when i cant shave my theighs w -[12:38] sparky4|compy4 i am too tired to -[12:38] Ojouchama sparky4 ew -[12:38] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: i am way too tired it takes alot of work -[12:38] sparky4|compy4 i feel very heavy -[12:39] Ojouchama sparky4 hairy legs weigh a lot. -[12:39] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: where you live? wwww -[12:39] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: i shave them alot www -[12:39] Ojouchama sparky4 I live here. -[12:41] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: I live in hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uks26L3B7_o -[12:42] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: ** otaku hell -[12:44] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: wwww -[12:44] |<-- ticks has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: overheatinggggggggg) -[12:44] sparky4|compy4 wwwwwww -[12:44] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: last year it hit 45C -[12:45] sparky4|compy4 Ojouchama: ??? hello crazy? -